[R405 Discussion]

Hi Greg,

When the controller first contacted me (over chat) he asked me if I realised I was operating in a restricted area to which I said yes, he then suggested that I should have contacted him for clearance to operate there only to later express doubt as to that requirement, it was a perfectly friendly conversation and there was no dramas.

You are right about R405 being similar to the Yarra CTAF, the ERSA says

BROADCAST intentions entering and leaving R405 on FREQ 120.8 MHz. This FREQ is not

monitored by Airservices Australia.

I wouldn't expect controllers to be across the board with all these procedures, I'm only just learning about them myself.

Maybe a quick heads up over chat would be helpful? i.e. "Hi, I will be operating in R405 on Unicom not above 500'/1000' "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Controller had me inside CTR on Victor One Sydney]

3 hours ago, Robert Fluke said:

Yes but how much over water where you away from the coast?

While The term ‘coastal flying’ refers to the practice of flying close to the beach and following the contours of the coastline. This practice is not permitted when flying in Victor 1 South between Ben Buckler and Cape Solander as doing so will put you within the Sydney control zone.

Ah that's a good point Rob, I may have been "coastal flying" a bit and not far enough out as per those restrictions.

Still the controller thought I was over the land as his scope suggested.

[R405 Discussion]

In tonights Real Ops Sydney I was flying in R405 above Sydney Harbour when I was queried by a controller about being there uncontrolled. There appeared to be some ambiguity about the issue so I thought I'd raise it here in the forums.

Details about R405 are outlined in ERSA FAC Sydney (Kingsford Smith) http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/ersa/FAC_YSSY_16AUG2018.pdf

An interesting pdf  about it here https://seaplanes.org.au/resources/Documents/SPAA-R405-a.pdf

 

 

[Controller had me inside CTR on Victor One Sydney]

In tonight's Real Ops Sydney I was flying the Victor One Route Northbound in an R22 when the controller called me up for flying within the CTR near Maroubra Beach.

I reported that I was definitely over the water however his scope had me otherwise.

I have normal ORBX Australia Scenery.

He sent me this link of my position

https://prnt.sc/l0pzi1

Is this a scenery or a scope issue?

Thanks

[Helicopter Operations Sydney]

Haha, gotta love that!

I think any new scenario needs a few goes for people to warm up to it, I'll be looking out for the next event to try my hand at some more Sydney VFR flying!

 

[Helicopter Operations Sydney]

That's my understanding as well Nick,

How did the Heli Ops event go last Monday? I was unable to attend unfortunately, hope it was a success!

 

 

 

[Helicopter Operations Sydney]

Just remember Tristan that the routes are numbered 5 now, i.e. Georges River 5

and;

I think the reporting altitudes at Prospect and 2RN are now 1500' regardless of which runway at Bankstown is active...

I'm not aware of any other changes, you'd have to read over the ERSA and double check everything

[Helicopter Operations Sydney]

On 9/9/2018 at 2:32 PM, James White said:

Sydney chopper ops are also a little special in that there are set inbound/outbound routes (coded clearances) for Kingsford Smith laid out in ERSA.

Generally clearances are issued by the relevant ADC position.

I put together a little map outlining these routes a while back, the ERSA has updated a little since then but it is still essentially the same and might give controllers a good visualisation of what's going on in Sydney, hope this helps anyway...